"Hostile to War"#2

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Subject: [postpsylab] Re: Hostile to war?       Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999

"Nicholas C. Arguimbau" wrote:

Advocacy of war is not in my repertoire, but as a matter of  objective statistics, tell me this: what is the likely number of "innocent  civilians" on all sides killed if the United States is involved, and what is the answer to the same question if the United States is uninvolved?  How do these numbers depend upon whether or not the US becomes  involved in a ground war? How do these numbers depend upon   whether or not "DU" isused?

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"Valery Kourinsky" wrote:

How (is it that) I could to destroy any "military machine" of a country and by this not to jeopardize its innocent people?    and      "Too much peculiarities and nit-picking in highly intellectual analysis made not timely turn out to be a cardinal trouble beyond analysts activity, and namely for their own lives. "           (Arrogant self-quote -- sorry) :)

() I am not a double-tongued advocate of war either, but in the heavily forested areas near where I live, many decades of fighting forest fires has taught a valuable lesson. Water alone will
not bring a raging inferno of timber under control. Part of the solution unfortunately involves limited burns of 'innocent' woodland, ahead of the coming fire. The main fire looses it fuel and more forest is protected beyond the 'firebreak'.

No surgeon has ever removed a tumor without carrying away some bit of healthy tissue.

..such metaphors can be added ad nauseum (especially to me, as I'm sick of a humanity which prides itself on chest beating and brutality).

A short-timed technique should never be accepted as a life-style policy ... "accept pockets of arrogant inhumanity just as an excuse to be able to use even more destruction as a means to acheiving 'peace'."

The first ten years (at least) in the education of humans should focus on one thing: respect, respect, respect.

EVERY PERSON DESERVES DIGNITY FROM EVERY PERSON WHO EXPECTS DIGNITY.

Just how many times do we have to learn the Golden Rule ?!?!?!

What will it take for people to go beyond paying lip service to it ?!?!?! and make it a part of what
we educate and inculcate and make spontaneous within our selves, our children, and the future ?!?!

Life is more valuable than power.

Do any of you think that it's 'fun' for a parent to have to correct and punish a child for inappropriate
behavior ? It's stinks.

It is a cost that we pay for letting our children explore the limits of what they can be in the world.

I want my child, I want every child to have the open opportunity to be and accomplish and create and interact with the universe in total open exploration of themselves and their potential ... for themselves and for the lives they share existence with.

But sometimes they (we) go too far in their testing and exploring. Sometimes they do damage (at first
unintentional, and then to reaffirm their self-reinforcing competence and power). It is natural. It is unavoidable.  It's comes with the total process that is in the end a good thing, a great thing.

But unless the lessons of Responsibility for Causing Harm are part of the program early on, humanity will be forever stuck in the current behavioral rut. Until, we eventually do ourselves in because the war mentality will continue well through the years when oil runs out and people will kill each other over the remnant scraps of a once abundant world.

And even if a small surviving population stays alive, the environment won't support the reduced breeding stock. At least not at the level of comfort and achievment that once existed.

Lesson: Stop exploring 'destruction'. It isn't worth it. It's a false god. Don't be seduced by the dark side ... and I do not mean "devils".

Grow up, humanity. Stop with the fairy tales of gods and demons. YOU are your own criteria of right and wrong.  You just have to define who YOU are, that's all.

I say: "YOU" are not just the body and personality you identify and recognize as "self". YOU are your family. YOU are your community. YOU are your culture. YOU are the homes and cities and continents you live in. YOU are all of them, even the ones that you've never seen or participated in personally. YOU are the animals and plants you rely on for food. YOU are the animals and plants and life that they in turn rely on to stay alive. YOU are the air the breathe, water you drink. YOU are the planet that MUST EXIST IN ITS TOTALITY in order for the "you" you are most familiar and intimate with, to survive.

Get it through your minds You, YOU are all of it. That 'other' person or thing is an extension of YOU, and you an extension of that part of YOU.

So which part of YOU are you willing to whack off today, huh? What part of your BODY is something to be destroyed and thrown away because of whim and arrogance ? Huh?

"If your eye annoys you, do you pluck it out?" Do it twice and you're blind forever. FOREVER! Done deal. Never another chance.

What gene, as yet un-enacted in the gene-pool of human potential, shall we prevent from coming into existence??? The gene for hyper-cognitive sentience? The gene for creating music beyond the senses of current limited sound ranges? The gene for understanding the language of dolphins? The gene for commitment to love and compassion for the solar system and all Life within it? The gene for
idetic memory, so swift as to give enlightment about the workings and importance of life, gleaned just from a glimpse?

And what other species shall we deprive of a similar future just because humans made it to the plateau early? What potential, resident and silent within them, needs the time and places to become realized too. Is their value any less than ours?

WE are HOMO GLOBALIS. One body with many personalities.

Stand back. Let a child learn. Until he/she tempts learning to be a destroyer. Then bring the child back to the path.

We must parent ourselves, reprimand ourselves, refine ourselves. I am you and you are me. WE/YOU/ME must morph and change, and take people along who don't understand yet, but must join us in the 'changing' anyway.

Deal with 'now', prepare for 'future'.

I love you all.

Jamie



"Nicholas C. Arguimbau"

Thank you. You stated very eloquently the reasons why as I said, "Advocacy of war is not in my repertoire." It is wrong, period. But once in a blue moon it is a good idea to check one's beliefs against the practical short-term and long-term consequences they imply.

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